Following a day off from their tour, Nivek Ogre of Skinny Puppy graciously took some time out to talk with me about the band, their history and their future. From 1982 to 1995, the group released a string of groundbreaking albums that were met with critical acclaim. Ogre: Yeah, Back and Fourth we made under 100 copies of it and sold those kind of just through mail and word of mouth and got picked up by Nettwerk after that. DK: I wanted to thank you very much for this opportunity I know your schedule is incredibly busy but I wanted to thank you right off the bat. Welcome to Chicago Music Guide! Probably one of the weirdest was being in Communist countries playing before the fall of Communism, and seeing the difference between say, Budapest then and now. Skinny Puppy Interview - Following a day off from their tour, Ogre graciously took time to talk with me about the band, their history and their future. Always good to see someone give a shout out to Skinny Puppy.This Message Edited On 09.05.08. There’s a lot more stuff goin on and a much bigger visual presentation. Interview: cEvin Key of Skinny Puppy Talks About hanDover. Or was it more out of fun? Skinny Puppy created really obscure soundtracks for the industrial age, the post modern reality or whatever term you may want to use for describing the dystopia adjacent to "the future is now" commandandment from the civilized world. Skinny Puppy Interview 1989 City Limits (Part 2 of 2) Delton Ian. Could you describe your best memories of Skinny Puppy? Twitter: https://twitter.com/skinnypuppy_, © 2020 Dennis M. Kelly / Chicago Music Guide - All Rights Reserved. DK: In keeping with the Pro-test video, with remixes and single releases, is Pro-Test ever going to be released as a single? ( Log Out /  But which actual songs were used? Did you want to grab a coffee or anything before we start? So it was something that I think in a segway was kind of something that further kind of cemented mine and Kevin’s desire to work together again. It’s just that continually doing this for like 34 shows, it’s like, ya know. Change ). Ogre: Cool man, this is a great time to see us because the bands’ really powerful and we’ve never sounded better, I mean as far as like sonically and I think the strength of the show is really good so it’s a good time to see Skinny Puppy, definitely. There are other personal details, loss, death. Ogre: Pretty exhausted actually. These days with Logic you can achieve a never-ending palette of colours that make it almost too easy to go too far. Unfortunately, Ogre didn’t specify when we spoke, but searching led me to a Statement to the … Ogre: Last night I walked the bare streets of Cincinnati, I crossed the river to Kentucky, and went and saw two movies and had some dinner. Best intentions are great but reality doesn’t sometimes facilitate those wishes. Ogre: No, I was totally involved in the design, I kinda wanted something that… there was a number of ideas that went into it… Ya know, something that was kinda in a sense dog related or mythologically or historically related to a like a dog and then the idea of a plague doctor, came in with a nose and I wanted to take that a step further I wanted to incorporate a fire helmet into it because to me I kinda see firemen and people like that as first line defenders in this new kind of plague and in a lot of ways I kind of saw them, that image similar to what the old plague doctors wore during the black death with their long noses and thing. Skinny Puppy InterView: Shapes for Arms – Pt. The more fun for me was kind of being in the rehearsals or in the auditions.. With the rise of Euro-modular synths a lot of companies started sending me stuff. Ogre: Oh, I chose to make OhGr more, there’s a little bit of antics that went on for whatever reason, probably just more of a security measure for me as a performer but I really tried to keep OhGr as just me being more of a musical front man. OhGr has his project OhGr. When I was up in Canada we were filming and I didn’t really have, my schedule gets turned around sometimes and I can’t sleep on the bus (I had some insomnia) and so I was on days of just trying to rest. Bill is going to be traveling to a number of places around the world to get some additional footage and we’re going to put together a DVD… I think it’s going to be out by at least June, hopefully or even before. 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Mason – Thank You Lord (Video), Watch the wonderful new video Wide Awake by Su Lee. In past albums Skinny Puppy as referenced books such as Plague Dogs by Richard Adams and other political media. Back in 1985 Skinny Puppy were relatively new, having released the limited Back & Forth debut EP in 1984—along with the Remission EP (the first official release on Nettwerk), and the debut LP Bites all within the span of a year.. During this time, the band was considered a side project for Kevin Crompton, who was known at the time as the percussionist for new-wave band Images in Vogue. It provided starting points for ideas, it reminded me of the beginning of Skinny Puppy ‘cuse it was back to analog and that works well for us. I didn’t feel intimidated by computers or technology, but I wanted to find a different method because I like it when it doesn’t sound right and perfect. At the same time kind of allowed me to just be, the band for me is a way of kind of getting away from the more ya know this aspect of it being really heavily in performance. More and more facts are coming to light and I think Skinny Puppy is a barometer of those conditions. Did you have a lot to say? I can kick myself for not having had that tour filmed because that was an amazing tour and there’s so little left of that tour, that it will all be put in this DVD. See more ideas about Skinny puppy, Puppies, Ogre. Rumors of Skinny Puppy's imminent breakup ran rampant. Ogre: We did, I think there’s an extra release with the original songs. Ogre explains this break with tradition: Podcast (chicago-music-guide-interviews): Play in new window | Download (Duration: 21:53 — 20.0MB). Discover releases, reviews, credits, songs, and more about Skinny Puppy - Back And Forth 06Six at Discogs. Ogre: I think that was our intention.. when we heard the idea, it wasn’t our idea necessarily, it was Bill who’s our guitar player and whose done our videos right back to “Too Dark Park” who had the idea based on this clash of cultures that we’re going through right now in a sense and so broke things down musically into how we thought it’d be interesting I think at this point of our career, the idea of caricatures starts to come up so we tried to take control of that and in a sense kind of shape our own caricature of what the band is and what people would expect from the band, always trying to kind of shift that away from what people expect to what they would not expect and play around with that whole thing. Could you talk a little about the evolution of technology and how that has affected your song writing process? DK: Now a couple questions on your OhGr solo tour, I was wondering how the OhGr tour differed from Skinny Puppy’s tour (as far as the performance aspect of the shows). I hope you have a great show tonight! Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/OfficialSkinnyPuppy/ DK: With your arrival on the music scene, you were looking at Pop and Rock being the dominant the charts more so, what kind of reactions did you receive, like with live shows and that.. Ogre: Our first release kind of came as a bit of a shock and I think that kind of propelled it a bit forward as far as the Canadian Press goes and things like that and they’ve kind of picked up on it and we did a video for our first single and that kind of was at a time when much music was kind of virgining video channel, so they played it a few times and it just kinda I think when it picked up for us when we started playing live shows, we started touring and I think that’s kind of when the word of mouth finally kind of connected. DK: Very cool. Rants and Raves About Classic Industrial Music, Setlist: Der Himmelsmechaniker, 31 May 2020. What are some of the most unusual points? We’ve never really done the two cycle run of the primary markets and secondary markets kind of, ya know. So, I mean it doesn’t sound that debilitating but it really takes a lot out of you, so I’ve been trying to play catch up from that a little bit. Complete your Skinny Puppy collection. When I interviewed Ogre from Skinny Puppy last year, he talked about their music being used for torture at Guantanamo Bay. There were periods of time when we were all on welfare. How I found out about it was through Aaron from Venetian Snares. Then we went into Mushroom Studios and did (the song) “The Center Bullet”, which was an instrumental that I had kicking around that he had heard, and wrote lyrics for on the plane on the way over. So I wanted to incorporate something like that, I never really got to that point with it and now it’s kind of turned into this… it’s taken a turn again as being a bit more militaristic in a way… becoming more of a soldier like character. There would be six layers and guys with machine guns. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. I had a bad run of luck with it on the first leg of the tour, I was using modeling clay and flour and I had an allergic reaction in Seattle I had a chemical burn actually in my eyes from the clay and the flour. Ogre: I’m taking a break just for a little bit. DK: I was reading in another interview that you don’t like covering yourself up with the blood. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. We had a masseuse come in yesterday who was with us in Florida who flew in to do some work. More like a Noise record or something. I’m not sure how we were able to survive. Ogre: Yeah, it’s cool because we have all this archival footage, ya know stuff that Dwayne shot and we’ve got, like something like 14 hours of tape from one of our tours in 1987 through Europe (our first tour through Europe) and we’re going to include all that stuff. DK: I was never really sure if it was art, entertainment or a statement? Ogre: Well, I think it was something we kind of fell into. Now it seems like the music’s kind of given way anyway, so. More so, were doing like 2 or 3 runs of 4 shows, 4 shows and 5 shows. Yeah, we made a little tape and…. Ogre: Certainly is, we’ve never done two rounds of a country before either. So Re-Noise is an amazing program if you’ve ever sequenced using that. It’s more of a Tracker style program. It’s a blend. Skinny Puppy's final album, The Process has been finally released. I think Phil (Western) did a Subcon virtual tour on Youtube, where he walks people around. Then we’ll meet up next week and see what it sounds like.”. Other than that we’re probably going to start recording again by the summer on a new record if all goes well and take a little bit of time to kind of like recharge. We had a monitor wall that we are carrying this time as extra monitors but we had that as our main visual set up last time on our Ohgr tour. Ogre: Yeah, I know… it’s cool. It’s more complicated. Please describe the creative process that went into the new album HanDover. Skinny Puppy formed in 1982 when cEvin Key, inspired by punk-dance grind of Throbbing Gristle and darker edge of Cabaret Voltaire, left his band … As far as I know it is still available. I think they are still selling it. You might want to check: Subconsciousstudios.com and that explains what else is happening. I have several projects, Download, Tear Garden, Plateau, and a label. I used to say it as a weird thing to say and somehow it got applied toward the first song. ( Log Out /  Ya know we’re also open to that and I think the idea of doing a remix CD might be interesting and I think that’s what they’re working on right now, whether Pro-Test will be included on that, I can’t say. DK: Were you involved in the designing of it at all? Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Where we could give it to SPV and it would be designed to sink. Lucy Duncan. Then we started theorizing about making a sort of Lou Reed type Metal Machine Music record. 0:24. See our Spotlight on Skinny Puppy's Ogre. Ogre: It’s almost becoming political satire. If that isn’t rare, we don’t know what is! DK: Now shifting on to the current tour, how was Cleveland the other night? I kind of enjoyed the process in a way, there’s a certain aspect of the process I like. And we did three shows in Vancouver and one in Seattle. DK: Hi, it’s Dennis Kelly from Chicago Music Guide. Well, I guess that’s it! I think both Kevin and I were a bit disenfranchised with our own situations. It’s unusual to think how much the world has changed in such a short period of time. Skinny Puppy The Greater Wrong Of the Right (live), Official: http://skinnypuppy.com/ DK: Is that being filmed over the course of the tour? But “Brownstone” and “NoiseX” are from that concept. We did and Mark’s five songs sounded a lot like OhGr, and I suggested that it sounded too much like OhGr, so maybe you guys should use that for a record. So we kind went for that idea, it was a lot of fun actually. And then it progresses through time. I’ve been pretty much running Subconscious in the entire direction of that label myself, ever since. An InterView with Nivek Ogre of Skinny Puppy. We’re talking about making a remix CD and I am not sure what songs will be chosen, it’s all coming together now so yeah, there’s a possibility of being remixed. Then there was a second period, a year later, I decided I was going to try and work with equipment that I wasn’t used to, so I started working with Re-Noise. I have noticed you don’t monetize circuitbreakerclub.org, don’t Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. Or did they have free reign? I’ll call it four stages. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. We started in the analog world and have seen the whole world of MIDI and  computers. Published 10:10 pm PDT, Tuesday, October 25, 2011 The best memory is to look back and come through with something very unexpected. We finally have a place where we can archive this stuff because Doomsday was something that was talked about as being a DVD but it was… the network never really came up to the plate and so now it’s done, it’s in the can… all the paperwork is done so it is definitely going to be a reality this time. Are there projects or ideas that you wanted to put into this album but were unable to? There was a large amount of modular synthesis used on this album. Maetthew. A Skinny Puppy egy kanadai ipari zenekar, amely 1982-ben Vancouverben, a British Columbia-ban alakult. In this show, he featured footage of Skinny Puppy playing the Winnipeg Art Gallery in 1985. We started on an Atari in 1986. We never got much radio play, this little band has always been more about live performance and cult following in a way. Are you now mostly using software or does hardware still play a role? It was a long process. Ogre: No, people don’t even think about it and I don’t think about it and I never had that problem before but for some reason, I have and it’s just worst….THE WORST situation. I think we’ve had 30 releases since then. Restored by Key, the LP collects outtakes and demos dating mostly from the sessions for 1984’s Remission and 1985’s Bites. Ya know I am not sure, that’s kind of a marketing thing within the label and stuff like that in a lot of ways. Techno/industrial innovators Skinny Puppy have influenced lots of other bands, most famously Nine Inch Nails and Chris Vrenna. Ogre: We do have a pretty tough schedule this time, yeah. DK: I know you were really big on putting out the singles and b-sides. Life, the economy crushing the whole political structure, people becoming more aware, people crying about the undercurrent of society. BestMargart says: August 17, 2019 at 11:45 am. The following is an interview with Ogre. And I was thinking to myself, “How were we able to be creative when we had no money and there was this feeling of no hope?” I used to have nightmares about having to go back and work at Safeway. How did you end up meeting and working with Edward Ka-spel (Legendary Pink Dots) for The Tear Garden? Luckily I had two days off after the Seattle show on the first leg which I just kinda flown my now present girlfriend up for a weekend in Seattle and she ended up having to nurse me.. sort of blind basically after this for two days and extremely light sensitive so it just was bit daunting so with those acting up, it like added on to the whole mess of things yeah, so I was a bit like fuck this! It was used for songs like “Ganbatte“. DK: That’s what I was hoping for because with the remix CD that was out before (from other performers) it would definitely be appropriate for SP to remix their classics and new classics. Wounds are slow to heal and with the crushing blow of Dwayne's death, what once was, has been forever laid to rest. Heavy in performance a sense of the theater and the blood and the grue and all that and kind of stood back and be a singer for a change. DK: New album… with the video for Pro-test… You deliberately came up with the direction on that one to defy expectations? The only way you could get their stuff was on cassette and some how I ended up communicating with the Pink Dots to get some material, and I managed to collect quite a bit of shit. DK: GREAT!! That became undeveloped. Ogre: I don’t know. DK: That’s something that would be cool to see. Skinny Puppy gets more involved in the sense that there’s kind of a theme or there’s ya know, some sort of linear thing connecting everything together and it’s a lot more theatrical and a lot more colorful and a lot more fluidy (laughs)… there’s more fluidity (laughs) in a literal sense to like Skinny Puppy shows. DK: I’d like to start off at the beginning… Why did you start Skinny Puppy? I don't know if I'll ever kick the "Remission" habit I've been on recently. We came back around in Detroit and had a really good show, so ya know. Short preshow interview (Skinny Puppy) Wired Interview cEvin Key 1988; cEvin Key Interview 1998 (Audio) Nardwuar interviews Skinny Puppy’s cEvin Key (Audio) Skinny Puppy’s – cKey (Download – interview 1996) Audio-Interview auf Dead Dave’s Radio; Musik-Tipps von cEvin Key; A Weekend With The Subcon BeyondFest Tour; Nivek Ogre. DK: This is definitely one of your more intense tours. Feb 8, 2015 - Explore Marquiz Cerulli's board "Skinny Puppy" on Pinterest. This video, via E.D.Music Channel, is an interview with cEvin Key, aka Kevin William Crompton, (Skinny Puppy, Subconscious Communications). DK: Are we looking at maybe a double-disc DVD? That was good because the guys (Gerhard Lengeling and Chris Adam) that invented the program we were working on (Notator) went on to invent Logic. (PAGE 40:) STEVEN GILMORE: First, how did you guys come up with the name Skinny Puppy - I'm going to start right from the beginning.. CEVIN KEY: It came from 'life as seen through a dog's eyes' for the first song Canine (K-9). Skinny Puppy is currently comprised of original members niVek Ogre and cEvin Key along with Mark Walk (formerly of Ruby). The Studio that I have starts in one corner with my original Skinny Puppy set up. But if you have do a lot of moving back and fourth it can be, ya know, I tend to get sicker easier having that stuff on all the time. If you guys get a chance, check out the Deftones cover of Spasmolytic, it's amazingly good. Ogre: Yeah a couple days in the hospital will set ya straight (laughs). I mean we’ve kind of resolved a lot of that now with a live drummer and guitar player and yet they’re all still kind of family in a way, they’re all people we’ve known from that period when we were doing that. 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